|
Post by Late Winter on Aug 17, 2010 11:02:39 GMT -5
I thought when we had discussed it though CG was already huge. Did we discuss it on the board? At the least I know I discussed it with someone, and thought that although there could be a risk, I thought it may end up being the right timing. CG was already huge then, and I had a feeling Teenage Dream would be big too.
They've done a good job too I think of promoting value with the album with Not Like The Movies, E.T, and Circle The Drain out as pre-release singles. And I think Peacock has gotten decent buzz for an album track too.
|
|
|
Post by DJ 7.0 on Aug 17, 2010 11:07:12 GMT -5
I think I discussed it somewhere with someone, but I don't remember where, but the wait was almost not even there. She had 2 huge singles and like you said, some nice promo releases. Now the question is will her first week be more Rihanna or Taylor Swift
|
|
|
Post by Late Winter on Aug 17, 2010 11:16:48 GMT -5
Rihanna's last? I'm sure if will be more than that.
As for Taylor, Katy's label obviously wants her to perceived as an album artist by what we've been discussing, and while I think she's going to be in better shape this time, I don't think it's going to be like day and night, where she can suddenly challenge Taylor. Even though, it looks like Taylor might be facing somewhat of a slump with Mine, Taylor will still probably beat her.
Katy just doesn't have that mass appeal yet, nor does she have the star power like the likes of Justin, Mariah, Beyonce to pull it off.
But all things considered, I think this will be an improvement in the right direction.
|
|
|
Post by taylor on Aug 17, 2010 11:40:09 GMT -5
I think Katy will do 200k+
|
|
|
Post by kevinkdc on Aug 17, 2010 14:00:08 GMT -5
I am thinking 300k
|
|
Monroe
Platinum
Living Legend
Can't you see what I see?
Posts: 1,093
|
Post by Monroe on Aug 17, 2010 17:57:47 GMT -5
I don't think Katy will ever be perceived as an album artist just because most of her singles have such an obnoxious amount of novelty appeal to them, and there's simply too much of that to make people take her seriously as an "album artist". So in a way it's a double edged sword to her, she gets the gigantic hits (IKAG and CG) but she also gets the generally tepid sales that are satisfying but general unimpressive.
|
|
|
Post by Late Winter on Aug 18, 2010 12:11:17 GMT -5
The album leaked!
|
|
|
Post by - `J0EL™ on Aug 18, 2010 12:12:31 GMT -5
I enjoyed it.
Fav tracks:
Teenage Dream CG Peacock Fireworks TOTGA Pearl CTD
|
|
|
Post by DJ 7.0 on Aug 18, 2010 12:12:32 GMT -5
I was just getting ready to download it. It leaked early this morning!
|
|
|
Post by Late Winter on Aug 18, 2010 12:19:59 GMT -5
Pearl's surprising me. The chorus was a little too cheesy and preachy from the previews, but the verses are totally different and I like the contrast.
|
|
|
Post by kevinkdc on Aug 18, 2010 12:20:04 GMT -5
Were are you guys finding it ? I don't see it at torrentz.
|
|
|
Post by Late Winter on Aug 18, 2010 12:22:14 GMT -5
Check your pms
|
|
|
Post by DJ 7.0 on Aug 18, 2010 12:26:08 GMT -5
Kevin, check out Google blogs in the future. You can type in anything like
"katy perry teenage dream album" and all the blogs that are hosting it will pop up!
|
|
|
Post by kevinkdc on Aug 18, 2010 14:27:12 GMT -5
L,O,L at this page..The outfit is ..................
|
|
|
Post by kevinkdc on Aug 18, 2010 14:37:19 GMT -5
Listening to the album right now.. Going to post my top favs song....
Am listening now to fireworks. Dis should not be a single she is going to die performing this song the vocals are to big for her
|
|
|
Post by DJ 7.0 on Aug 18, 2010 15:05:51 GMT -5
Conventional wisdom these days seems to hold that the album is dead, singles are the lifeblood of the music industry, and people prefer their music as bite-size chunks, in whatever bit rate available and on their phones whenever possible. This is conventional wisdom, of course, because it is probably true. Just look at the carnage on the Billboard albums chart for proof. It would seem that nobody buys albums anymore (unless they have Eminem's name on them) and that we're all just a few short years away from the complete extinction of the medium. That is not as farfetched as it might seem. In fact, it's basically a certainty at this point.
Still, perhaps you continue to believe in the power of the long-player, in the majesty of the deep cut. Perhaps you are holding out hope for the return of the 80-minute magnum opus or the darkened-room, double-disc experience. Who's to say you are wrong? Well, I am. And so is Katy Perry. Because next Tuesday, she'll release Teenage Dream, 44 minutes of shimmering, pitch-perfect pop music that may very well signify the end of the album as we know it.
Sure, it will undoubtedly top the Billboard albums chart and will almost certainly go platinum many times over, but really, Dream is an album in theory only. There is a cover, and a track list and a lengthy list of songwriting credits attached to it, but those things all seem like formalities. This is a collection of singles, a Whitman's sampler of pop tunes, with seemingly no thought given to cohesion or sequencing. It is a no-concept record; there are no through lines or plot points or so-called "album tracks." You can listen to it in any order and have roughly the same experience. In fact, it's almost better that way. This is perhaps the first album in history that lends itself to the shuffle function on your iPod, which is sort of ingenious when you think about it.
And none of that is meant to suggest that Teenage Dream isn't a genuinely rousing success (in parts, it definitely is), but rather, I mention it because it makes writing about Dream as an album rather pointless and unfair. Because as an album, it's sort of a mess. Sequentially, it jumps from a sweeping ballad ("Firework") to a song about dudes with big dongs ("Peacock") to an angry breakup tune ("Circle the Drain") to a sweetly voiced lament on lost love ("The One That Got Away"). It's the kind of arranging only R. Kelly is crazy enough to try — check his 2007 album Double Up, on which he follows a song called "Sex Planet" with "Rise Up," a tribute to those slain in the Virginia Tech shootings — and it's jarring, to say the least. And then there's the matter of Perry's emotional range, which, on the album, seems limited to just two extremes: starry-eyed ingénue (the title track, "Firework," "Hummingbird Heartbeat," album-closing "Not Like the Movies") or bloodthirsty, sex-crazed she-devil ("TGIF," "Peacock," "Circle the Drain"). There truly is no in-between, and while the dichotomy is interesting at first, by album's end, you're left dizzied and disoriented. There's a reason no one likes whiplash: It tends to hurt.
Then again, those are all rock-critic nitpickings. Teenage Dream is not meant to be experienced as a cohesive thing, and chances are, most won't listen to it that way. There are a dozen gleaming slivers of pop here, all of which you will probably hear on the radio at some point, and each has its merits. There's the party-ready pump of "TGIF" and "California Gurls," the club-ready thump-and-dazzle of "Peacock" and "E.T.," the breakup/makeup machinations of "The One That Got Away" and "Drain," and the tear-jerking melodrama of "Pearl" and "Movies." They are all really pretty great, they are all destined to be smash hits, and it doesn't really matter if they work together.
Because Teenage Dream is not about the sum of its parts. It's about the parts themselves — the gloriously shiny, studio-honed guided missiles hell-bent on hammering radio. And in that regard, Dream is one of great pop albums of recent times. It is purposeful in its precision. So perhaps the best thing you can say about it (and certainly the most fair assessment of its charms) is that it's not a particularly solid album, but it's one heck of a greatest-hits collection.
|
|
|
Post by kevinkdc on Aug 18, 2010 15:19:18 GMT -5
(out of the 5) I am really disappointed in the album, I think I never in my life rated so many 3 stars on a album before.. I never rated a song below the 3 stars (except for haven't met you yet because I hate it) 1. Teenage Dream ♥♥♥♥♥ 2. Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F) ♥♥♥♥ 3. California Gurls ♥♥♥♥♥ 4. Firework ♥♥♥♥ 5. Peacock ♥♥♥♥ 6. Circle The Drain ♥♥♥ 7. The one that got Away ♥♥♥♥ 8. E.T. (Futuristic Lover) ♥♥♥♥♥ 9. Who Am I living For ♥♥♥ 10. Pearl ♥♥♥ 11. Hummingbird Heartbeat ♥♥♥♥ 12. Not Like The Movies ♥♥♥♥ -------------------------------------------------------- 13. California gurls (passion pit remix) ♥♥♥ 14. Teenage Dream (Kaskade Club remix) ♥♥♥♥ -------------------------------------------------------- The ballads are just horrifyingly bad except for Not like The Movies. I am not sure if she will get a hit after Teenage Dream. Her best bet is E.T, Peacock and Last Friday Night.. The reviews are not going to be that pleasant I think. But I for one am very disappointed in this album. Side Note: They are rated by the first time listen except for E.T., you never know maybe it will grow on me, I certainly hope so !
|
|
|
Post by DJ 7.0 on Aug 18, 2010 15:23:44 GMT -5
You gave the album 4/5 but you are disappointed with it? How does that work? 4/5 is really good lol
I would expect nothing higher than a 2/5 based on the way you feel
|
|
|
Post by kevinkdc on Aug 18, 2010 15:26:38 GMT -5
You gave the album 4/5 but you are disappointed with it? How does that work? 4/5 is really good how humorous! I would expect nothing higher than a 2/5 based on the way you feel I want to give it a 3.5 but there is no half star , But going to edit it.. California gurls and Teenage dreams are amazing so they are holding this album for not having a 3 star rating.
|
|
|
Post by Mrs. KP on Aug 18, 2010 16:48:05 GMT -5
I have a feeling this will be Katy's "Breakaway" or "Misundaztood" in terms of success.
|
|
Zack
3x Diamond
Mr Underwood
Posts: 38,647
|
Post by Zack on Aug 18, 2010 21:51:54 GMT -5
01. The One That Got Away 02. E.T. 03. Hummingbird Heartbeat 04. Pearl 05. Teenage Dream 06. California Gurls 07. Peacock 08. Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) 09. Fireworks 10. Who Am I Living For? 11. Not Like The Movies 12. Circle The Drain
The only 2 I really dont care for are "Not Like The Movies" and "Circle The Drain"... poor iTunes promotional singles choices (although E.T. is amazing). REALLY good album, imo. 1-6 are all AMAZING, and 7-10 are all really good. 11 is okay and 12 is awful.
|
|
|
Post by Late Winter on Aug 19, 2010 12:10:43 GMT -5
I have a feeling this will be Katy's "Breakaway" or "Misundaztood" in terms of success. I'm getting more of a Good Girl Gone Bad vibe. It seems like they could pull like 7 singles off this (but the album sales won't be that great) 01. The One That Got Away 02. E.T. 03. Hummingbird Heartbeat 04. Pearl 05. Teenage Dream 06. California Gurls 07. Peacock 08. Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) 09. Fireworks 10. Who Am I Living For? 11. Not Like The Movies 12. Circle The Drain The only 2 I really dont care for are "Not Like The Movies" and "Circle The Drain"... poor iTunes promotional singles choices (although E.T. is amazing). REALLY good album, imo. 1-6 are all AMAZING, and 7-10 are all really good. 11 is okay and 12 is awful. Totally agree on the worst songs: Fireworks, Not Like The Movies, Who Am I Living For, and Circle The Drain are the weakest imo too.
|
|
|
Post by DJ 7.0 on Aug 19, 2010 12:22:30 GMT -5
Peacock is kinda annoying, but I can't see it not being a single. It reminds me of Hollaback Girl. Kinda fun at the tim,e, but one of Gwen's most annoying singles.
Also, Friday Night should be a single as well and probably Firework since it will be in europe and a lot of US enjoys it
|
|
Zack
3x Diamond
Mr Underwood
Posts: 38,647
|
Post by Zack on Aug 19, 2010 21:08:50 GMT -5
ET and Hummingbird Heartbeat and The One That Got Away need to be singles. If these are all singles, I'll be happy.
|
|
|
Post by Late Winter on Aug 20, 2010 13:40:25 GMT -5
I think ET, Peacock, and Firework are going to be the next singles based on the way they've been talking about them. But I think this is an album that can go for 6 singles.
I like The One That Got Away, but I don't know if it's right for a single. And I don't know if two retro sounding ballad-ish songs would work (this and Teenage Dream). I think TGIF and Hummingbird Heartbeat have the most potential for the 6th single.
|
|