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Post by Billy Uranus on Jul 25, 2008 2:23:43 GMT -5
It will be a rediculous mess.
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Post by P(A) on Jul 25, 2008 4:27:50 GMT -5
It will be a rediculous mess.
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Post by mrpink on Jul 25, 2008 6:36:59 GMT -5
It will be a rediculous mess. You just had to didnt you.
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Post by Billy Uranus on Jul 27, 2008 20:36:57 GMT -5
It will be a rediculous mess. ;D It will be a rediculous mess. You just had to didnt you. Yeah ;D
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Post by mrpink on Jul 28, 2008 8:45:03 GMT -5
Be nice! kthnx.
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Post by Legendtina on Jul 29, 2008 14:29:43 GMT -5
It will sound like 'U & Ur Hand'...Linda Perry has already stated before that Pink always likes to repeat and stick to the same formula...and that's why they had a fall out.
My worry here is that Pink didn't even take a long break between the last album and this one. 'Who Knew' hit #1 in September 07, it hasn't even been a year! She should've saved this album for 2009.
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Post by So What on Jul 30, 2008 5:29:20 GMT -5
It will sound like 'U & Ur Hand'...Linda Perry has already stated before that Pink always likes to repeat and stick to the same formula...and that's why they had a fall out. My worry here is that Pink didn't even take a long break between the last album and this one. 'Who Knew' hit #1 in September 07, it hasn't even been a year! She should've saved this album for 2009. Funny, cause you said the opposite at PMB once upon a time.
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Post by mrpink on Jul 30, 2008 13:08:50 GMT -5
Can I ask where Linda said that?? Cause Id love to know.. I follow both and Ive never read or see an interview where she said that. But I could be wrong, or late. P!nk is all about creating new music (all her singles have been different, theres LOTS of songs on TT and IND that are nothing like her previous stuff, even Lindas work on TT wasnt like M!ss stuff.. I highly doubt it was Linda pushing her to do songs like WFL, Free, etc) and new sounds so I find it odd/really hard to believe that shed want to re-create the same music over and over. The only thing Id say she has done more than one is soft verses and harger chorus', but thats not odd imo. If Linda really said this I think shes talkin s**t.. or just using lil things to take stabs at her.
Linda has stated that she didnt like TT or thought it was crap/s**t/whatever and wasnt shocked that it failed.. she was asked again early on in the IND era why she thought P!nk wasnt having success again and she said that the albums werent good, which is definitely a crock of s**t about IND (to each their own though), she also said SGs was just that - stupid, etc.. she also said she would work with P!nk again cause she thinks P!nk is a talented girl.. so I highly doubt she stopped working with her cause of P!nk wanting to repeat herself and then say she would work with her again in a heartbeat.. just doesnt add up imo. Linda just seems bitter imo. P!nk has moved on and has said nothing but nice things about her since, even though they had their falling out.. I just think there was jealousy involved all around and they lost their friendship.. Im sure both miss each other a lot, they just have to talk it out.
Linda is probably a lil saddened that ever since Beautiful her career as a producer has fizzled. She hasnt had a hit since Beautiful.. and Im sorry but Hurt and What Are You Waiting For werent smash hits like she had with GTPS and Beautiful.. she also gives herself too much credit with M!ssundaztood cause only one single (GTPS) was a Linda single, yes she had a few tracks on their but it wasnt allllll Linda. I love their work together but Linda seriously needs to shut up cause P!nk does just fine on her own.. Yes, TT wasnt as successful as M!ss or even IND and yes its not a great pop gem like those but imo its a pretty good album, just not mainstream.. Im not all about Pop music so I can appreciate a lot of styles/genres.
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Post by mrpink on Jul 30, 2008 13:38:29 GMT -5
Oh and I dont think she has to wait a year (at least), as long as the music is hot shell be fine. Rihanna doesnt, who else? As long as the music is hot, the album is hot, promotes and does good videos shell be fine. Its all based on the material and promotion.
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Post by Legendtina on Jul 30, 2008 13:56:01 GMT -5
Can I ask where Linda said that?? Cause Id love to know.. I follow both and Ive never read or see an interview where she said that. But I could be wrong, or late. P!nk is all about creating new music (all her singles have been different, theres LOTS of songs on TT and IND that are nothing like her previous stuff, even Lindas work on TT wasnt like M!ss stuff.. I highly doubt it was Linda pushing her to do songs like WFL, Free, etc) and new sounds so I find it odd/really hard to believe that shed want to re-create the same music over and over. The only thing Id say she has done more than one is soft verses and harger chorus', but thats not odd imo. If Linda really said this I think shes talkin s**t.. or just using lil things to take stabs at her. Linda has stated that she didnt like TT or thought it was crap/s**t/whatever and wasnt shocked that it failed.. she was asked again early on in the IND era why she thought P!nk wasnt having success again and she said that the albums werent good, which is definitely a crock of s**t about IND (to each their own though), she also said SGs was just that - stupid, etc.. she also said she would work with P!nk again cause she thinks P!nk is a talented girl.. so I highly doubt she stopped working with her cause of P!nk wanting to repeat herself and then say she would work with her again in a heartbeat.. just doesnt add up imo. Linda just seems bitter imo. P!nk has moved on and has said nothing but nice things about her since, even though they had their falling out.. I just think there was jealousy involved all around and they lost their friendship.. Im sure both miss each other a lot, they just have to talk it out. Linda is probably a lil saddened that ever since Beautiful her career as a producer has fizzled. She hasnt had a hit since Beautiful.. and Im sorry but Hurt and What Are You Waiting For werent smash hits like she had with GTPS and Beautiful.. she also gives herself too much credit with M!ssundaztood cause only one single (GTPS) was a Linda single, yes she had a few tracks on their but it wasnt allllll Linda. I love their work together but Linda seriously needs to shut up cause P!nk does just fine on her own.. Yes, TT wasnt as successful as M!ss or even IND and yes its not a great pop gem like those but imo its a pretty good album, just not mainstream.. Im not all about Pop music so I can appreciate a lot of styles/genres. Linda Perry did in fact say that. It was during a 'Back to Basics' promotional campaign for a magazine article (i'm forgetting what magazine), but Linda did say that Xtina made it clear to her that she did not want to make a 'Beautiful part 2,' unlike Pink who she 'tried' to work with again, but Pink asked her to make a 'Get the Party Started part 2' and Linda said she's not about that. Basically she was comparing Xtina's 'risks' to Pinks 'safeness', which i don't agree with as a whole either (Pink has taken risks before...TT...however IND is totally 'safe'). I think the 'I'm Not Dead' singles were great...don't get me wrong. But any of those songs could've been given to Kelly Clarkson or Avril Lavigne (i believe some of them were offered to them first), The reason Mizundastood was so fantastic was because she was the first one to come out with that sound. So it was new and FRESH at the time. Then you had Avril Lavigne's 'Let Go' album, then Kelly's 'Breakaway'...so by the time 'I'm Not Dead' rolled around that whole sound did seem kind of outdated. I just hope there's a little more SPUNK this time around. The problem with the last era was that her singles were huge hits...but it didn't feel like she was back to her peak. The label did a horrible PR job with the album (which explained the lack of sales in the US), and the casual listeners loved her songs, but they didn't really relate to her. For all we know, Random guy who listens to top 40 radio could've thought 'Who Knew' was sung by Kelly Clarkson. This time around, they really need to make people AWARE that Pink is back. She needs to be more in your face.
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Post by mrpink on Jul 30, 2008 14:12:14 GMT -5
I agree that IND was safe, but only cause its really catchy and poppy like M!ssundaztood, but unfortunately you have to lose some to win some... P!nk had to get back in to the mainstream and IND was the best bet.. Kelly C will do the same thing.. Avril will do the same thing.. Christina will do the same thing.. theyre all going to go back to POP.
IMO though I think songs like UUH, Dear Mr President, etc werent safe or songs like she had done b4. I think people say its safe cause its a really good pop album, and nothing out of the norm like P!nk normally does, but imo thats not a bad thing.. Id rather something good and safe than something thats really out there that flops.. Now Im not saying I want a safe album everytime but Im definitely ok with a safe album to get back in to the mainstream again.
Oh and recreating or doing another GTPS doesnt mean she likes to repeat her music as a whole but she just could have wanted another party track like that.. WK vocals do not sound like Kelly, but definitely the production was.. But you also have to remember those were the producers she was pushed to work with so she COULD be safe. Also its not P!nks fault that Dr Luke uses the same s**t over and over again. UUH wasnt safe (imo anyway), SGs wasnt safe, NKs was kinda in the middle, LMAIL was safe, and Who Knew. Also imo UUH doesnt sound like a Kelly or Avril song, Ive never head a song by them that sounds like that.. The Veronicas, yes. Maybe Avril now but UUH was made b4 TBDT. Also I Kissed a Girl has the same drum beats and stuff just like CIC, so like I said Dr Luke is the one with the problem. lol
Also about the songs being given to Kelly or Avril, hello P!nk was the first. So if anything the songs theyve done sound like they could have been given to P!nk.
I agree about the PR, they did a horrible job from SGs to WK, they were hoping WK would just take off on by istelf with no add date or push from the label.. *dumb* but once UUH came out they seemed to smarten up..
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Post by Legendtina on Jul 30, 2008 14:17:22 GMT -5
They could've given the album a re-release, and had a follow up after 'Who Knew'.
I heard 'Who Knew' was originally offered to Kelly Clarkson for 'My December'...but she rejected it.
Anyway...yeah...i'm pretty sure Kelly will go in the same direction that Pink did. As for Aguilera...it's kind of hard for her because she hasn't really established a sound. What's her sound really? Her first album was completely different from her second album, and her third was completely different from her second. When people say she has to go mainstream again, are they referring to the 'Stripped' sound or the Debut sounds? Because both are outdated. She does have be more mainstream...but i don't want her to repeat anything again. I don't want a 'Stripped' Part 2.
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Post by Legendtina on Jul 30, 2008 14:20:37 GMT -5
Also, i find it ironic how 'Back to Basics' is so bluntly labeled a 'flop' when it has outsold Mariah Carey, Madonna, Britney, Jessica, Kelly Clarkson, Gwen Stefani etc. latest albums. All her major competitors except BEYONCE she has outsold. E=MC2 BETTER be labeled a big flop if were sitting her calling 'Back to Basics' one.
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Post by **Becky**™ on Jul 30, 2008 14:24:48 GMT -5
i think its around the same as TSE?!!..
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Post by mrpink on Jul 30, 2008 14:24:54 GMT -5
Why re-release when she already had good songs to release? Im sorry but UUH, LMAIL, LWTH (not a single but a choice), etc were all great single choices.. and look they worked. Its like Rihanna, she didnt have to re-release but it didnt hurt her to.. I doubt it would have hurt P!nk either but there was no need and it showed. I also heard WK was initially for Kelly as well but never saw anything but hear say about that.. I cant hear her singing "stand up and punch you out" P!nk must have made those changes to the song. But I agree, it definitely sounds like a Kelly Dr Luke special. Im glad P!nk got it though, the last chorus/bridge is amazing! I wasnt saying Christina has to go back to her old sound cause yes, she doesnt have a particular sound, I was just meaning more in the pop mainstream direction. I think shell have to go even more safe than Stripped cause even those songs didn't do amazingly well on radio (from what I remember) except for Beautiful.. Her new sound will probably be a lil risky but something thats definitely more safe. We all know these pop artists dont like when their songs arent radio hits.
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Post by mrpink on Jul 30, 2008 14:27:23 GMT -5
Also, i find it ironic how 'Back to Basics' is so bluntly labeled a 'flop' when it has outsold Mariah Carey, Madonna, Britney, Jessica, Kelly Clarkson, Gwen Stefani etc. latest albums. All her major competitors except BEYONCE she has outsold. E=MC2 BETTER be labeled a big flop if were sitting her calling 'Back to Basics' one. I dont think it was a flop.. did I say that? lol It wasnt as successful as her previous albums (thats why people tend to call things flops or if they totally bomb) but it was still successful. f***, lots of albums arent even going platinum WW. lol All Im say is that shell definitely go back to a pop/more mainstream sound and shorter album(s). Its just a lot of these girls are hitting their third albums and are going for a more risky sound and then it doesnt pan out as well as they hoped so they end up having to go back to more of a mainstream sound to get popular again and then go from there. Oh and Mariah and Madonna just got started so thats not a fair comparison.
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Post by mrpink on Aug 6, 2008 14:52:38 GMT -5
NOT LIKE UUH SO !!! HAHAHAHA
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