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Post by Dance Or Die on Jul 24, 2013 8:47:57 GMT -5
Single releases August 28.
So I was going to wait to start this topic until they released just the dance shot on their official channel.....but screw waiting xD The song is awesome!! It's very different from their last few singles even though it's still electro. I can't wait to hear the first A-side!
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Post by XFER on Jul 24, 2013 14:53:54 GMT -5
Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! My beautiful girls are back!! <3 It took me like 2 listens to like the song lol Brainstorming is an amazing song as well, but that took me like 10 listens to appreciate. So I'm ahead with this one XD
WHY does Riho has to continue hogging the lines? She is arguably the one who sings most in this single. And as usual, the perfection made girl Kanon, is stuck with Haruna, Haruka and Erina as the ones who sing the least. Without Reina, the line distribution could have been better. Whatever! I enjoy the song a lot, and can't wait for this to be uploaded by itself so I can rip the audio lol!
The costumes are amazing as well, and the dance is perfect! They can do no wrong! <3 (except they should give Kanon some solo lines)
Plus, Kanon is hosting the show!! I will watch the whole thing now because of that <3
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Post by Dance Or Die on Jul 24, 2013 16:46:50 GMT -5
I'm actually pretty surprised with the line distribution. I thought Reina-less Musume would be the Riho & Sakura show, but others got some decent solos. A little less Riho would be nice though lol. Kanon's vocals are fantastic and I'm really hoping that she'll get at least one decent line in the other A-side. I don't understand why they push Haruka to the side though. She seemed like she would've been the one to get pushed in the 10th gen before Ayumi. I understand why Erina & Haruna don't get too many lines though. Their vocals are pretty weak. Haruna's been improving though.
I adore the costumes. So cute! I've always been a fan of the military style look & they look amazing in the video.
I wish they would have uploaded it alone instead of with the show cause it's so annoying to listen to in the middle of a video lol. They usually upload the MVs to their channels about 3 days to a week after the Hello Station premiere so at least it won't be too long.
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Post by Dance Or Die on Jul 31, 2013 16:54:53 GMT -5
I'm loving Wagamama a lot! Kanon's like up front in the dance too which is so different cause she's usually shoved to the back. I don't think she got any solos, but she had some decent screen time which is some improvement lol.
The black outfits remind me of Girls' Generation's Run Devil Run lol. And they actually shot a music video NOT in a studio.
Kanon's also hosting the episode again!
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Post by Nick on Aug 6, 2013 21:28:29 GMT -5
This is not bad. Which is pretty much how I feel about everything I've heard from them, lol. Not bad, but not good enough for me to download it.
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Post by XFER on Aug 7, 2013 16:41:56 GMT -5
Love the new videos and songs! It took me a while to liked them, but I can't get enough right now. Yes, my beautiful 15 years old Kanon got some decent screen time. I think I hear her getting a shared line at near the beginning. Also, in the live version, there is a point where Riho and Kanon are at the center, so I imagine that while Kanon might not have gotten a solo line, she's getting duo lines. Which are much better than a random "Ah" or something ajjajaja Another comment. This is a little out there or whatever. I am glad the line distribution is more fair, yet, they still managed to give nothing to Kanon, Haruka, Haruna and Erina. Yes, I admit Erina and Haruna are not among the best voices, but they deserve something! Oh Nick, you should download, these girls are so beautiful and amazing lol
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 16, 2013 8:57:36 GMT -5
Standalone MVs for both:
I personally can't wait to hear the B-sides.....I'm hoping for lots of Kanon in the one she's in. She's been seeming to get a lot more exposure recently so I hope that translates into solo lines.
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Post by XFER on Aug 16, 2013 13:08:40 GMT -5
I usually don't get why fans keep hating on videos, I think they're all nice (even if One Two Three was extremely sparkly) And these two are amazing!! I also hope that Kanon gets solo lines in the bsides. Yes, I also noticed how Kanon was showcased more in Wagamama. She's perfect! *cries*
Ever since Kanon announced that she and Sakura were taking vocal coaching together, my longing for Kanon led singles has been there. I know, hard to happen, but I want to dream <3
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 16, 2013 14:30:50 GMT -5
i don't get the video hate either lol. It's not like they do things that differently from Golden Era Musume. I mean, did they watch the Love Machine video? Now that's what I'd call a bad video (& very dated xD).
I'm extremely hopeful about a Kanon-led song too. Even if it's just an album track I'd be totally okay with that. The voice lessons with Sakura seem to me that management believes them both to be good singers.
They're releasing a best of album in September I think where they are supposedly going to re-record some older Musume tracks. I think that's gonna be our best bet to hear a Kanon lead at first. Because the whole release seems almost experimental so maybe management will experiment with a couple different leads just to see what people say about it.
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Post by XFER on Aug 17, 2013 21:18:02 GMT -5
jajajaja so true! Love Machine is such a dated video. I confess, I don't really like their earlier singles. I liked a bit Happy Summer Wedding, and then we jump until Shabondama and THE Manpower!!!, From there I started to like or love some singles.
Yes!!! I don't really care (for the moment) if a Kanon led song is an album track, I just want to see her shine <3 lol
Ahhh I had heard the news, but didn't know what to make of the first 4 or 5 songs. So, Love Machine, The Peace and the other old songs, are going to be sung by the current lineup? If that's the case, I am ready to embrace those songs now. Plus, I assume Wakuteka, Help me!, Brainstorming and Kimi Sae, are going to get released here and not in a new studio album. I want more details about this release <3
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 19, 2013 8:59:47 GMT -5
I've never been too much of a fan of their earlier material either. I've learned to appreciate it, but pretty much everything before Do It! Now sounds incredibly dated. I'm interested to hear the new "The Manpower" I absolutely despise that song and I hope they make me love it. I love "I Wish"....can't wait to hear that re-done. That's the song I want a Kanon lead on. It'd be absolutely perfect. There's also supposed to be two brand new tracks on the release as well so I'm definitely looking forward to new stuff. Hopefully one of them will get a music video!
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Post by XFER on Aug 21, 2013 15:31:09 GMT -5
Cool! It's not just me lol WHAT? Any particular reason why you hate such a flawless song? THE Manpower is delightful, I adore it <3 And sung by the current lineup, is the icing of the cake <3 I am blanking out right now, can't remember how I WISH goes lol But ANY song sung by Kanon would be perfect <3 Yeah, the two other song must be new. I wonder if they will in the end add just the two newest singles and be done with it. A music video for one of the new songs would be great! I hope they do that, even if it's only released in a CD-DVD edition.
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 22, 2013 10:29:33 GMT -5
I don't know why I don't like it...songs from them around 2004-2005 are probably my least favorite. I can't stand Roman either.
The CD is supposed to be released as a CD only version. I assume that if they do have two new songs that they will do a video for one. C-ute just got a video for one of their new album tracks so I assume they'd definitely do one for MM. I hope it's multiple videos. I'd love to see updated videos for some of their older tracks.
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Post by XFER on Aug 22, 2013 16:40:14 GMT -5
I see. There are time I don't like songs and I can't point out exactly why I don't like them lol SEXY BOY was released around that time? Cause it was the first Momusu song I heard and to this day, still a top favorite <3 Awww CD only Well, I shouldn't complain, it will be cheaper then ajajjaja I hope they release an overseas version soon after the original release. So, I think if they made a video for an album track of C-ute, then Morning Musume being more popular, would get one as well! Can't wait!! In other news, have you noticed how in Ai No Gundan, Haruna only gets one close up? How unfair is that??
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 25, 2013 11:25:04 GMT -5
Sexy Boy was 2007 I believe. Love that song. My all time favorite is still Fantasy ga Hajimaru from their Fantasy Juuichi album...Ai's notes at the end of that song... <3 And it seems I was wrong lol There will be both a CD only & a CD/DVD version of the best album. Hopefully that means that we will get some music videos!! Come to think of it...I don't think I noticed Haruna at all in either of the videos! That's really sad. I always thought that she was a fairly popular member, especially after she was appointed a sub-leader. She seemed like she was getting more of a push/screen time in their last single. One of the B-sides (Funwari Koibito Ichinensei...sung by Erina, Riho, Kanon, Ayumi, & Sakura) Erina & Ayumi rap I really can't take Hello Project girls seriously when they rap because it sounds pretty weird. This sounds better than the rap that Ayumi did in the one Help Me! B-side. It sounds like practically all the singing is done by Riho though. It sounds like they were all told to sing exactly like her because I can't pick Sakura out at all. Kanon sounds like she got at least one solo line...was hoping for more, but at least one is a step up!
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Post by XFER on Aug 26, 2013 21:34:47 GMT -5
To be honest, I never paid much attention to Fantasy Juuichi. There were a couple songs I disliked, so I barely listen to it. Ahhh cool, then yes, if it's affordable, I will buy the CD+DVD edition. But the content better be music videos and not like 13 Coloful Character with those interviews where I was completely clueless lol Yeah, I thought they were 'grooming' Haruna to take over as leader when Sayumi leaves, but this single she is again pushed to the back Haruna is my 3rd favorite on the group <3 Hey! You are right, that song seemed sung only by Riho Plus, the song is not good However, on a brighter note, I thought Watashi No Dekkai Hana from the Help me!! single, was amazing! Ayumi rapping didn't bother me, and while most of the song was sung by Reina, it was a great track <3
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 28, 2013 14:48:07 GMT -5
This single sold over 96,000 copies in it's first day! That's incredible for them! To put it in perspective, it's already sold more copies than Brainstorming's first week! Chances are extremely good that this will continue to do fantastic. Another B-side "Makeru Ki Shinai Kon'ya no Shoubu" (sung by all): I'm really liking this one! And it almost sounds like Kanon has solos! Although her voice is incredibly powerful so they could be shared lines, but she can still be heard haha. Also, slightly off-topic, but the CD tracklist for the updated best album has been confirmed.: 1. LOVE Machine (Updated) 2. I WISH (Updated) - everyone but Sayumi 3. Ren'ai Revolution 21 (Updated) 4. The☆Peace! (Updated) 5. Souda! We're ALIVE (Updated) 6. THE Manpower!!! (Updated) 7. Aruiteru (Updated) - Sayumi solo 8. Ren'ai Hunter (Updated) 9. One•Two•Three (Updated) 10. Wakuteka Take a chance (Updated) 11. Help me!! (Updated) 12. Brainstorming (Updated) 13. Kimi Sae Ireba Nani mo Iranai (Updated) 14. Wagamama Ki no Mama Ai no Joke 15. Wolf Boy (New song) I'm really surprised that Wagamama was included. I thought for sure they'd be saving this single for the next album, but I guess Ai no Gundan will be on the next album. Wolf Boy sounds REALLY interesting.
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 28, 2013 21:10:59 GMT -5
Final B-side "Bouya" (Sayumi Michishige, Mizuki Fukumura, Haruna Iikubo, Masaki Sato, Haruka Kudo):
I'm not sure if I like this or Makeru better. The b-sides for this single are weaker than the ones for Brainstorming.
Also, if anyone even notices...I removed the first two videos from the thread because the MVs themselves have been posted. The amount of embedded videos in here has been awful on my connection....seriously took me about 30 minutes to get the post above this one to post xD
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Post by XFER on Aug 28, 2013 22:24:26 GMT -5
Oh my! That's superb!! But I wonder, maybe all the sales they will have (more or less you know) have been already done, so if tomorrow looks a healthy sales number, then I can be at peace. I'd hate it if tomorrow it sold like 150 copies lol!! Makeru Ki Shinai Kon'ya no Shoubu, yes, it is great! It started a little weak, but by the end I loooved it. Maybe the fact that I could hear Kanon a couple times helped. I think I hear her voice a couple times, but I think they're shared lines. This is just testament that her voice is powerful, and should be better used. AHHH!! That tracklist sounds really good now that I see the singles from Renai GHunter onwards are updated. Reina had half the lines in those songs, so I wonder who will get her lines. I will hate it if they're all given to one girl. I hope songs like One Two Three are split more evenly, and Riho gets less lines that she has <3 I shouldn't be hateful, but Riho went from being a top favorite, to my most disliked member Not only she is the spotlight, but her vocals are terrible these days. Did you see that special medley they did on Music Station? It has been removed, so I can't post it. Riho butchered the song! Her lines in Wagamama were seriously atrocious. I can't believe no one thinks it is wise to remove her as a center girl. I would graduate her as soon as possible. Bouya is ok, but doesn't grab me much. You are quite right, the b-sides this time around are not as strong as last single's. Still, glad to have new music <3 Oh, it's ok, if you prefer, and in the future post more links, just post the link itself instead of embedding the video Ok, this seems like an essay... If Wagamama is included in this, the logical step would be to include Ai No Gundan in the next studio album. But it is really weird half of a double a-side single is inluded and not the other half. Hope they include Ai No Gundan somewhere. Wolf Boy does sound interesting. My mind goes to kpop styled music with the title alone, so let's see what turns out to be, and hopefully it will have a video <3
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 29, 2013 6:55:56 GMT -5
I actually tried to turn the older videos into links instead of embeds because that's what I would've preferred, but when I saved the post, the video was still embedded....so I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or what lol
This single sold over 9,300 yesterday! It may seem like a steep drop, but for some perspective, this single has now outsold what One Two Three sold in it's first week....in only two days! This is the best sales week since golden era Musume so far.
What Riho needs is some intensive vocal training. I was shocked at her lines in Wagamama as well. She really only did good on the last line which makes no sense because it was the hardest. I always try to see the good with Riho, but I'd really just make her a main dancer and choose a new main vocal....unfortunately it'll never happen though knowing Hello Project. I am extremely disappointed that no one won the 12th generation audition. I was hoping that a great new front girl would be found.
And I cannot wait to hear Wolf Boy....you're right about the Kpop thing xD The first thing I thought of when I saw the title was EXO's Wolf haha.
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Post by XFER on Aug 30, 2013 17:31:19 GMT -5
lol Are you just posting the link? or are you using that feature where you paste the link in the given box and it adds tags before and after? WOW!! And here I thought it would never happen! This will teach people Momusu still has it <3 I know I am in the wrong here, but while I also tried to see the best in Riho, her cocky attitude made her go from my second favorite to the very last. What I wonder is what the vocal trainers of the girls are doing. 9th generation has been ther for over two years, and the front girl Riho still has problems. In contrast, Mizuki for examploe, has more power and is a better singer. It's good she's getting a little push recently. However, everything is eclipsed by the bad treatment Kanon gets. Did you watch the Wagamama close up video? Kanon appeared only 9 times, and she didn't appeared until second 58 or so! This is terrible! I hope she is confident and these things don't bother her. But she's young and am sure she also wants to be showcased Yeah, the audition was a joke! I originally wanted no new girls, cause new ones means less lines for current members. But I warmed up to the idea of 4 new girls (lol for me it's all or nothing) and then this happens I seem to remember reading something Tsunku said about not adding new girls, but maybe doing so later. *I* got the impression he meant adding someone new before new auditions. So who knows. LOL That's exactly why it reminded me of kpop! EXO's Wolf lol (currently loving their song Growl <3)
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Post by Dance Or Die on Aug 31, 2013 10:41:16 GMT -5
I did just post the link....I even went back to the video itself & got the link again and posted that. I think I'm just bad with technology And today they sold over 24,000 copies!!! They were having some major stock issues earlier in the week (it seems that UFP wasn't expecting them to sell so high). The guess is that they sold about 3,000 to 4,000 copies the day before (as Oricon only gives daily sales for the top 3...they were down to #4). So this major spike in sales really shows that people are interested in them again. Now UFP needs to learn to ship more copies next single because they could possibly have sold over 150,000 already without the stock issues. The total known sales as of today are 129,738 (with yesterday they are definitely over 130,000.) Can't wait until the end of Oricon's week to see their total sales! More fun facts: This single now has the 11th highest first week sales they've ever had. We're not even finished with the week yet! It is absolutely amazing to see the rebound they've made over the past year. I believe we've officially entered a new golden era. I don't understand why Riho still has major problems either. Of course she's only had vocal training for two years with the group and she's only 15, but you'd think that they would focus in on her major issues and tackle them. She's been dealing with the same issues forever. Also, both Mizuki and Kanon are close to her age, yet can sing better. I'm very glad that Mizuki is getting a massive push lately. I never was too fond of her voice, but lately she's been really improving. I've heard that Kanon is starting to get some more TV appearances and she has the highest views on her "We are the current Morning Musume" videos they did on YouTube. I'm really hoping those things will translate into at least one good solo line in their next single. I can't believe they don't use her more in close-ups....that girl knows how to work the camera. She is absolutely gorgeous! And only 15! I think that the older she gets she is going to stand out so so much in MM. I'm the type of person that LOVES auditions and graduations. I don't think I would be so interested in Hello Project without them. That whole dynamic has really caught my attention. I think I like graduations a little TOO much sometimes though because I like seeing what happens to the group afterwards. I've never been really into AKB48 (they have some good songs but a lot of boring ones), but recently due to the graduation of 3 really high profile members I've been following them a lot because it's just so fascinating to watch the dynamics of a group change. I wanted 4 new members in MM. I really did. I wanted a Maki Goto type girl to run in and steal the show. MM needs soem new front girl competition for Riho. I think with a new member it could push her to work more on her voice. Unfortunately the addition of Sakura didn't do anything to challenge Riho's front position, but I think a four member generation with better dynamics could possibly take her spot. Anything's possible. Maki Goto came in and stole the show from Natsumi Abe. Gosh I LOVE Growl! I was disappointed in Wolf because it was just so silly. To this day I can't not laugh at that song because of the howling & "Ulf" & the high pitched "Sarangheyo!" They did their best with that song though. Growl is on a whole different level. They certainly deserve all the attention they've been getting.
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Post by Dance Or Die on Sept 3, 2013 22:39:21 GMT -5
This single has officially sold over 144,000 copies in it's first week! I believe this is their best first week sales since Go Girl (Koi no Victory)! Can't wait for the next single already.
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Post by XFER on Sept 4, 2013 12:08:10 GMT -5
Awesome!!! I'm so happy for them!!! And I think this new gained popularity manages to make them sell even better with their next single <3 I agree, this is a new Golden era! I'm also glad you agree with what I said. Popularity seems to be the only thing keeping Riho being the lead in everything. I was also expecting some push for Kanon or something, but seeing the cover for the BEST, she is even 'shadowed' by a light! Seriously, what's up with that? The light is practically on her face. Way to display the members LOL Yes, a 4 new members generation would have been awesome! And yes, I also secretly had the hope that one of the new girls would take the spotlight away from Riho. Sadly that won't happen
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Post by Dance Or Die on Sept 12, 2013 19:17:54 GMT -5
Awesome!!! I'm so happy for them!!! And I think this new gained popularity manages to make them sell even better with their next single <3 I agree, this is a new Golden era! I'm also glad you agree with what I said. Popularity seems to be the only thing keeping Riho being the lead in everything. I was also expecting some push for Kanon or something, but seeing the cover for the BEST, she is even 'shadowed' by a light! Seriously, what's up with that? The light is practically on her face. Way to display the members LOL Yes, a 4 new members generation would have been awesome! And yes, I also secretly had the hope that one of the new girls would take the spotlight away from Riho. Sadly that won't happen They surpassed 150k this week It's unfortunate that everything in the J-pop idol world is focused solely on a member's popularity. I personally loved both Reina and Ai Takahashi's voices, but the Platinum era was just overloaded with the two of them. The others (especially Aika, Jun, & Lin) deserved to get lines as well. Unfortunately, I don't see Riho getting removed from the front girl position for a while. Even in the two new updated tracks that have come out she is still the lead. I don't believe she will last for 10 years like Reina & Ai though. I think management isn't going to allow girls to stay that long anymore. It created too many problems when everyone started to decide to leave at the end of the Platinum era. They will most likely go back to the way things were in the Golden era with frequent additions and graduations. I'm hoping that the 12th generation audition will be reopened late this year and Sayumi will announce her graduation. Those two events have the most chance to bring Riho away from the front. I cannot believe that album cover! Whoever greenlighted that mess needs to be fired. Kanon has gotten solo lines in both the updated Renai Revolution & I Wish so maybe that's good? It'd be nice if she could lead one of the remakes though. Oh, and the DVD content is pretty worthless. No new MVs at all.
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