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Post by Late Winter on Aug 28, 2008 11:39:36 GMT -5
-- 43 STUDIO ALL-STARS AMERICAN BOY - (TRIBUTE TO EST 30605 999 17 30622 -- 85 STUDIO ALL-STARS AMERICAN BOY
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Post by crunkie on Aug 28, 2008 12:02:34 GMT -5
The people who buy these generic studio musician covers need to have their iTunes accounts disabled.
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Post by - `J0EL™ on Aug 28, 2008 13:43:52 GMT -5
OMG a new trend is starting, and the future of the music biz is going down the tubes!!
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Post by Late Winter on Aug 28, 2008 14:14:39 GMT -5
Probably the end of digital downloads as we know it. All record companies will withhold songs from iTunes, so that we're "forced" to buy the albums and the iTunes chart will be nothing but cover versions
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Post by - `J0EL™ on Aug 28, 2008 14:15:57 GMT -5
Probably the end of digital downloads as we know it. All record companies will withhold songs from iTunes, so that we're "forced" to buy the albums and the iTunes chart will be nothing but cover versions In a way that's a good thing, Look at Kid Rock's album sales!
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Post by Zack on Aug 28, 2008 16:00:34 GMT -5
no its a horrid thing. it will just contribute to more illegal downloads.
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Post by Late Winter on Aug 28, 2008 16:12:22 GMT -5
Either way, we win
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Post by BRiTNASTY on Aug 28, 2008 16:14:01 GMT -5
I rarely buy shit off iTunes to begin with, well, mainly because when a new song leaks, I'm not waiting 5 weeks to legally buy it, I want it now.
Plus I hate not having a physical single in my hands. I remember as a kid, CD Singles were the sh!t.
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Post by Late Winter on Aug 28, 2008 16:16:47 GMT -5
CD singles especially maxis. I was so sad when they died The ringle was supposed to be sort of like the new generation of CD singles. Then they got delayed. Now they're probably canceled since it's been like 8 months
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Post by BRiTNASTY on Aug 28, 2008 16:17:46 GMT -5
Yeah haha. I mean like I still see some singles in stores, but they're always imports, so its like $15 for a 2 track cd-single, and I'm like "uhhh not worth it".
IDK. I wish we could go back to 99-03.
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Post by Zack on Aug 28, 2008 17:06:43 GMT -5
the only stuff i buy from iTunes are 1) songs by my favorite artists, to support them 2) albums by my favorite artists (i buy a digital copy and a physical copy only for Carrie though 3) songs that i cannot find anywhere else 4) videos by my favorite artists 5) Charity singles 6) iTunes' free 'Singles of the Week' which really isn't much. get most of my stuff from people and random sites and stuff.
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Post by - `J0EL™ on Aug 28, 2008 17:09:20 GMT -5
the only stuff i buy from iTunes are 1) songs by my favorite artists, to support them 2) albums by my favorite artists (i buy a digital copy and a physical copy only for Carrie though 3) songs that i cannot find anywhere else 4) videos by my favorite artists 5) Charity singles 6) iTunes' free 'Singles of the Week' which really isn't much. get most of my stuff from people and random sites and stuff. Same here, well except Carrie instead its Britney.
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Post by Late Winter on Aug 28, 2008 17:13:20 GMT -5
the only stuff i buy from iTunes are 1) songs by my favorite artists, to support them 2) albums by my favorite artists (i buy a digital copy and a physical copy only for Carrie though 3) songs that i cannot find anywhere else 4) videos by my favorite artists 5) Charity singles 6) iTunes' free 'Singles of the Week' which really isn't much. get most of my stuff from people and random sites and stuff. Although I have bought a few things before when I was feeling adventruous
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Post by BRiTNASTY on Aug 28, 2008 17:15:52 GMT -5
I only buy stuff off iTunes if I actually want to support the artist: Britney, Brooke, Chris Richardson, Hayden P
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Post by Pipa on Aug 28, 2008 17:25:41 GMT -5
no its a horrid thing. it will just contribute to more illegal downloads. ...Your point is?
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Post by Late Winter on Aug 28, 2008 17:27:40 GMT -5
Article about this. People in the industry are starting to talk
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TREND WATCHING - The iTunes Boycott Azoff, Levitan Among Those Offering Their Opinions in WSJ Story
August 28, 2008
Have iTunes holdouts benefited from boycotting the #1 music retailer, and is the idea of not making potential hit singles available at iTunes becoming a trend? These are some of the questions asked—and answered—by the Wall Street Journal’s Ethan Smith and Nick Wingfield in an analysis published this morning and headlined “More Artists Steer Clear of iTunes.”
While the iTunes Store has sold north of 5 billion song downloads since it started five years ago, a growing number of labels say selling singles on iTunes in some cases is crimping overall music sales, Smith and Wingfield point out. The evidence for this hypothesis is persuasive.
Kid Rock's Rock 'n Roll Jesus, which was kept off iTunes' virtual shelves, has sold 1.7 million copies in the U.S. since its release last year, with sales increases in 19 of the past 22 weeks. That data inspired Atlantic Records to pull Estelle’s album from the store, four months after it went on sale there, just as one of the tracks entered the iTunes Top 10.
Certain label execs, managers and artists have long complained about Steve Jobs’ policy prevents them from selling an album only, on both fiscal and aesthetic grounds.
"In so many ways it's turned our business back into a singles business," Vector’s Ken Levitan, who manages Kid Rock, told the WSJ, calling iTunes "part of the death knell of the music business."
Levitan argued that if the album had been sold according to iTunes policy, many of its sales to date would instead have shown up as 99-cent downloads of the single "All Summer Long."
More supportive examples supplied in the piece: Katy Perry has sold 2.2 million downloads of "I Kissed a Girl" in the U.S., nearly 10 times the 282k units he album has sold. M.I.A. has sold 888k downloads of her surprise hit "Paper Planes," compared with 272k on the album Kala.
"Check some of these artists that have hit singles, versus their album sales," Levitan added. "Then compare it to what Kid Rock is doing."
Mega-manager Irving Azoff told the reporters that a few years ago he presented the Eagles with a financial analysis showing that their royalties to date from iTunes sales were far lower than anyone expected. Glenn Frey did some back-of-the-envelope math of his own. "His comment was that it amounted to 39 minutes onstage in Kansas City," Azoff joked.
Though he didn't disclose the royalty figure, Azoff’s implication was that the band had received less than $500k from its iTunes sales at that point. While band's iTunes income has increased since then, Azoff said, "I'm underwhelmed by the number of sales I see on iTunes for the classic bands."
AC/DC, one of the biggest-name holdouts, sold an estimated 2.7 million CDs world-wide last year, up from 2.55 million in 2003. The band has consistently sold more than 1 million CDs annually in the U.S. alone. Since the beginning of 2006, only fellow holdouts The Beatles have sold more catalog albums in the U.S. Among the six best-selling catalog artists during that period, the act that sold the most individual songs digitally—the Rolling Stones—sold the fewest albums, digital or physical.
Former Yahoo Music exec David Goldberg opined that a widespread shunning of iTunes is unlikely unless a number of acts on the level of Coldplay and U2 were to join the boycott. Even then, Goldberg believes many artists would be hurt by such a move.
"On certain albums, you can justify it, but you're also going to push people to the illegal stuff," he said.
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Post by - `J0EL™ on Aug 28, 2008 17:37:49 GMT -5
Great article!
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Post by Late Winter on Sept 2, 2008 11:17:00 GMT -5
Still trucking along at #16 on iTunes.
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Post by mrpink on Sept 3, 2008 12:01:41 GMT -5
I have a big feeling our internet providers are going to track our paths online and if they see us downloading illegally well get charged.. IMO anyway. Thats why I think theyre really going to push sales for albums now.
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Post by Late Winter on Sept 3, 2008 14:19:41 GMT -5
43 23 STUDIO ALL-STARS AMERICAN BOY 45378 48 30605 76000
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Post by Late Winter on Sept 10, 2008 1:55:27 GMT -5
The original is back on iTunes. So much for this pulling a Hit Masters lol
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Post by Late Winter on Sept 10, 2008 10:21:34 GMT -5
23 55 STUDIO ALL-STARS AMERICAN BOY 24753 -45 45378 100753 Another cover -- 188 STARLITE SINGERS AMERICAN BOY 7219 999 381 7600
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Post by BRiTNASTY on Sept 10, 2008 15:26:31 GMT -5
LMAOOOOOO
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