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Post by Billy Uranus on Jun 3, 2013 0:47:10 GMT -5
No thread for this? Well let's start one now.
I am personally not a fan, but it is nearing the top 10 on Pop:
16 13 DAFT PUNK Get Lucky 6845 5219 1626 43.565
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Post by Billy Uranus on Jun 9, 2013 17:13:14 GMT -5
Top 10 on pop this week:
13 9 DAFT PUNK Get Lucky 8568 6845 1723 55.85
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Post by Drag on Jun 9, 2013 19:48:42 GMT -5
This is the worst song on pop radio at the moment imo.
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Post by Pipa on Jun 9, 2013 20:00:56 GMT -5
This is the worst song on pop radio at the moment imo. I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.
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Post by BRiTNASTY on Jun 9, 2013 22:01:59 GMT -5
For real. I LOVE THIS and their new album.
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Post by Pipa on Jun 9, 2013 22:06:28 GMT -5
For real. I LOVE THIS and their new album. Their album is one of the most chill things I've listened to. Everyone should give it a chance.
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Post by Billy Uranus on Jun 9, 2013 22:08:30 GMT -5
While I don't know if I think this is the WORST song on pop radio right now, I definitely see where Drag is coming from. It's boring and really has no appeal in my opinion.
On top of that, what's it doing in the top 20 on Alternative, ahead of the new STP/Chester Bennington song? That shows you what a joke that format has become; when a non-rock song is ahead of a huge collaboration between core rock artists.
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Post by Pipa on Jun 9, 2013 22:15:01 GMT -5
On top of that, what's it doing in the top 20 on Alternative, ahead of the new STP/Chester Bennington song? That shows you what a joke that format has become; when a non-rock song is ahead of a huge collaboration between core rock artists. Daft Punk has more to do with Alternative than they realize. At this point they're making up for wrongfully ignoring them.
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Post by Billy Uranus on Jun 9, 2013 22:32:45 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with them as a whole, but certainly this song isn't very "Alternative?"
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Post by Pipa on Jun 9, 2013 22:36:31 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with them as a whole, but certainly this song isn't very "Alternative?" Pharrell Williams has chart history on Alternative too. There's no reason "Da Funk" couldn't have been an Alt hit.
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Post by Billy Uranus on Jun 9, 2013 23:04:46 GMT -5
You're probably right, and I'm probably just being my pompous self.
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Post by BRiTNASTY on Jun 9, 2013 23:15:32 GMT -5
I'm just being my pompous self. Sounds about right.
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Post by Billy Uranus on Jun 9, 2013 23:26:30 GMT -5
I'm just being my pompous self. Sounds about right. Pompous or not, I don't think I'm too out of line. Linkin Park has been the biggest alternative act of the past 15 years, and STP has always gotten a substantial amount of airplay on the format as well. So when LP's lead singer becomes the lead singer of STP and puts out a decent lead single, it should be a big deal. Back in 2009 and 2010 (when Alt radio was actually listenable), that song would have easily been top 10 by now and this song would barely be on the chart, if at all.
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Post by Drag on Jun 9, 2013 23:33:06 GMT -5
I feel like they're going for this sound just for the sake of going for it. It feels really bland, uninspiring, unappealing song at least to me. I'm not going to even bother with the album (as per Justin Timberlake's album, I don't do albums with 6+min tracks).
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Post by Pipa on Jun 10, 2013 11:23:52 GMT -5
You're probably right, and I'm probably just being my pompous self. Would you have complained in 1997 that The Prodigy was in the top 20 ahead of Our Lady Peace?
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Post by Billy Uranus on Jun 10, 2013 13:07:07 GMT -5
^I'm not familiar with The Prodigy, so I can't say. What song of theirs was ahead of Our Lady Peace?
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Post by Pipa on Jun 10, 2013 13:17:56 GMT -5
^I'm not familiar with The Prodigy, so I can't say. What song of theirs was ahead of Our Lady Peace? They're an electronic dance band along the same lines as Daft Punk. It was "Superman's Dead" but obviously that song outpeaked theirs in the end. All I'm saying is that bands like these have always had a place on Alternative, and they're more relevant now than ever now that grunge is on its way out.
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Post by BRiTNASTY on Jun 10, 2013 16:20:32 GMT -5
I think the issue here is, Alternative as a format is growing and expanding on what is considered "Alternative" music and KP, is stuck in a certain sound of being alternative, key in point that STP song with Chester at the lead, its a very signature sound that I would group in with bands like Nickelback or Jane's Addiction. I have never been that big on Rock music or even the Alternative format until lately with my taste growing with the format. I can sit on the Alt chart and see that one of my favorite songs from last Fall, Capital Cities "Safe & Sound" was just #1 but I wouldn't group it on the same format as Metallica or Stone Temple Pilots. I feel like a lot of the Alt Chart makes sense, with similar sonical elements to them. I've noticed that bands that used to dominate Alternative are now charting heavier over at Mainstream Rock and Active Rock, and I feel like that's where they dissonance starts. Alternative, in its core element, has always been about whats popular in the indie scene, not indie in that its hipster-y but that its whats popular with kids in their early 20s who aren't listening to rap, pop or country. Alternative at its core means 'a different possibility' and I feel like, songs like "Get Lucky" or "Safe and Sound" or MS MR's "Hurricane" (one of my favorite songs of LAST SUMMER which is now #31 on the chart) wouldn't find a home on rock radio, or top 40 radio or hot ac radio, so it's put on Alternative because it fits in with the current niche. KP has referenced to me, crappy years of music and at that point, it comes down to personal preference. He doesn't think this song fits in with the Alternative format, but it might be that he is growing out of the Alternative format? I see his taste, in what he considers Alternative, to be more of whats being played on Active & Mainstream Rock, so when a song like "Get Lucky" shows some real heft on the format where his favorite bands used to be the bosses he clashes against the format even more. He attributed Grouplove to being one of the bands that killed Alternative radio, but I feel like they are spot on what is considered Alternative nowadays and its simply just him growing apart with the format that he has loved so dear over the years. don't kill me KP, just my two cents, and I've wanted to say it for a while but didn't want to come off awful
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Post by Pipa on Jun 10, 2013 19:46:11 GMT -5
^ That was a very passionate, well thought-out way of putting what I was thinking. Thank you.
For the record, KP never said that about Grouplove. I was just jokingly referring to him saying how the Alt format has been dying in his eyes.
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Post by Billy Uranus on Jun 10, 2013 22:48:46 GMT -5
I think the issue here is, Alternative as a format is growing and expanding on what is considered "Alternative" music and KP, is stuck in a certain sound of being alternative, key in point that STP song with Chester at the lead, its a very signature sound that I would group in with bands like Nickelback or Jane's Addiction. First things first, you're right on. I have my idea of how the Alternative format should be, and that is because I grew up with the format during the '00s when it was playing a lot of hard rock and very little indie. I witnessed bands like Staind, Seether and Puddle of Mudd hit #1 along with the likes of Foo Fighters, Muse and My Chemical Romance. I think of Linkin Park and STP as being what the format is all about: alternative rock rather than INDIE rock. I can understand Alt distancing itself from Nickelback and those other "Active" bands that I mentioned, but when bands like Jane's Addiction, STP and Linkin Park aren't as welcomed as they used to be it makes me scratch my head. I have never been that big on Rock music or even the Alternative format until lately with my taste growing with the format. I can sit on the Alt chart and see that one of my favorite songs from last Fall, Capital Cities "Safe & Sound" was just #1 but I wouldn't group it on the same format as Metallica or Stone Temple Pilots. I feel like a lot of the Alt Chart makes sense, with similar sonical elements to them. I've noticed that bands that used to dominate Alternative are now charting heavier over at Mainstream Rock and Active Rock, and I feel like that's where they dissonance starts. Alternative, in its core element, has always been about whats popular in the indie scene, not indie in that its hipster-y but that its whats popular with kids in their early 20s who aren't listening to rap, pop or country. Alternative at its core means 'a different possibility' and I feel like, songs like "Get Lucky" or "Safe and Sound" or MS MR's "Hurricane" (one of my favorite songs of LAST SUMMER which is now #31 on the chart) wouldn't find a home on rock radio, or top 40 radio or hot ac radio, so it's put on Alternative because it fits in with the current niche. KP has referenced to me, crappy years of music and at that point, it comes down to personal preference. He doesn't think this song fits in with the Alternative format, but it might be that he is growing out of the Alternative format? I see his taste, in what he considers Alternative, to be more of whats being played on Active & Mainstream Rock, so when a song like "Get Lucky" shows some real heft on the format where his favorite bands used to be the bosses he clashes against the format even more. I think I grew out of the format right around a year ago, when the true wave of indie started. I need to accept the fact that I am no longer its target audience. I'll stick to Active, which I feel does cater towards me. And you're right about the old core artists for Alt now charting better on Active...I noticed it with songs by The Offspring, Linkin Park, Green Day and Jane's Addiction last year. He attributed Grouplove to being one of the bands that killed Alternative radio, but I feel like they are spot on what is considered Alternative nowadays and its simply just him growing apart with the format that he has loved so dear over the years. don't kill me KP, just my two cents, and I've wanted to say it for a while but didn't want to come off awful You don't come across awful at all. I just went from listening to Alt all the time 4 years ago to not wanting anything to do with it now.
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Post by Pipa on Jun 10, 2013 23:01:25 GMT -5
I can see where KP is coming from. The Edge has gotten to the point where it could rename itself to "Toronto's Soft Rock" and not change a thing. People are very vocal about it, especially because they were heavier back before they were even called Edge. I think there's still a place for stations that play both indie and hard rock/metal, even if it's something many listeners are very bipolar over. On the one hand there's stations as extreme as 89X and others that are a little more balanced like KFMA. But more and more people are on Jake's side of things and it shows in the charts.
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